that's really about all i had to say. it's true, though. and i know what you're thinking, but it's not the lack of caffeine cause i got over that weeks ago. it just does not taste like real coffee. and believe me, i've tried nearly all the weapons in my arsenal. i'm using whole beans from peet's and everything. it's just not working out. it still tastes weak. and bitterish. i'll try the french press tomorrow. i'm not sure any coffee can withstand that mutha. more to come.